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John Carmen born abt 1822 Horley Town, Surrey, died Dec 1863
Bermondsey, Surrey a Leather Dresser.
Married 1843 Guiltcross, Norfolk.
Wife Maria Noble born abt 1825, Shadwell, Middlesex.
died 1885 Shadwell,Middlesex.
The children of John Carmen and Maria Noble were.

Mary Ann Carmen born abt 1842 Old Kent Rd, Lambeth Surrey.
Hannah Ann Carmen born abt 1846 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Elizabeth Carmen born abt 1849 Old Kent Rd, Lambeth, Surrey.
Matilda Carmen born abt 1849 Bermondsey, Surrey.
John Carmen born abt 1851 Bermondsey, Surrey a Dock Labourer 1911.
Thomas Carmen born abt 1856 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey, died
1913 Fulham, London a Woodchopper.
George Carmen born abt 1863 Bermondsey, Surrey a Waterside Labourer 1911.
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John Carmen 1851-
Married 1874 Bethnal Green
Wife Mary Eliza Brown born abt 1854 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey
The children of John Carmen and Mary Eliza Brown were.

Frederick Carmen born abt 1876 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Mary Ann Carman born abt 1881 Bermondsey, Surrey, Bapt 27/Apr/1881
St.Crispin, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Gilbert Carmen born abt 1882 Bermondsey, Surrey, died Sep/1955
Bermondsey, Surrey a Cellarman 1911.
Betsy Carmen born abt 1885 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Jessie Mary Ann Carmen born abt 1887 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey a
Tin Box Maker 1911.
John Thomas Carmen born abt 1888 Bapt 09/May/1888 St.Crispin, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Thomas Francis Carmen born abt 1890 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey, Bapt
17/Dec/1890 St.Crispin, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Frank Carmen born abt 1893 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Ethel Carmen born abt 1895 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey.

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Thomas Carmen 1856-1913
Married 17/Nov/1878 St.Paul, Bermondsey, Southwark, Surrey.
Brides father John Hall a Coalporter.
Witnesses John Hall and Susannah Garrett or Gussett.
Wife Sarah Hall born abt 1859 Rotherhithe, London.
The children of Thomas Carmen and Sarah Hall were.

Sarah M Carmen born abt 1880 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Frederick Carmen born abt 1883 Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Charlotte Carmen born abt 1886 Hammersmith, London a Laundress 1911.
Elizabeth Edith Carmen born abt 1889 Fulham, London.
William Carmen born abt 1891 Hammersmith, London.
Robert Carmen born 01/Dec/1892 Hammersmith, London.
Louisa Carmen born abt 1895 Hammersmith, London a General Servant Domestic 1911.
Lily Carmen born abt 1900 Hammersmith, London.
Matilda Carmen born abt 1901 Hammersmith, London.

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George Carmen 1863-.
Married 25/Dec/1885 All Saints, Newington, Southwark, Surrey.
Brides father Abraham Palmer of Rochester, Kent, a Carpenter.
Witnesses Elizabeth Wakeling and William Whiting.
Wife Martha Palmer born abt 1865 Bermondsey, Surrey.
The children of George Carmen and Martha Palmer were.

James Carmen born abt 1890 Bermondsey, Surrey a Printer 1911.
Thomas Carmen born abt 1892 Bermondsey, Surrey.
William Abraham Carmen born abt 1893 Bermondsey, Surrey a Bottle Washer 1911.
John Joseph Carmen born abt 1896 Bermondsey, Surrey a Dan Guard in Factory.
Charles Carmen born abt 1898 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Elizabeth Carmen born abt 1904 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Eliza Ann Carmen born abt 1906 Bermondsey, Surrey.
Edward Carmen born abt 1909 11 Parkers Buildings, Bermondsey, Surrey.
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Gilbert Carmen 1882-1955.
Married 25/Dec/1912 All Saints, Rotherhithe, Southwark, Surrey.
Brides father William Bishop of Rotherhithe a Dock Labourer.
Witnesses William Bishop and Mary Ann Woods.
Wife Caroline Elizabeth Bishop born abt 1885 Bermondsey, died 1973.
The children of Gilbert Carmen and Caroline Elizabeth Bishop were.

William Alfred Carman born 09/Nov/1913 London, died Dec/1981 Southwark, London.
Caroline N Carman born abt 1915 London, died Jun/1940 Bermondsey.
John F Carman born 06/Jun/1917 in St.Olave, Greater London, died Dec/1983 Southwark.
Violet Mary Carman born 10/Jun/1921 St.Olave Bermondsey, London, died
Mar/1970 Southwark, London.

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James Carmen 1890-
Married 14/Mar/1915 St.Lukes, Bermondsey, Surrey.
Brides father John Keeble of Strebrook, Suffolk a Carman.
Witnesses William Banks and Elizabeth Banks.
Wife Sarah Elizabeth Keeble born abt 1892 Bermondsey, London.

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Further associations not listed here:

Whiting, Hanes, Haynes, Hutchins, Mills, Jolley, Owens.